millershollow - Day 8

Link:150705 Sat Jan 23 00:17:49 2010

With the success of killing three wolves in a row, the villagers awoke bright and cheery in the morning. But the cheer did not last. As they arrived at the town hall, they realized that [info]stride was missing. Glumly they walked over to her cottage to find it wrecked, blood splashed everywhere.
[info]cuddlycthulhu spoke up, "Well I guess we can cross her off our suspect list."

SUMMARY: [info]stride the VILLAGER is DEAD!
Time:2007-07-25 19:29:15 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
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#1
oh wtf


Time:2007-07-25 19:32:04 GMT
Author:[info]cambler
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#2
I think it's pretty clear - the remaining wolves have chosen to continue the strategy.

Honestly, I think it might work.


Time:2007-07-25 19:39:21 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
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#3
what confuses me is, there's only, what, two "good" specials left, right? Cupid and Magistrate? So all it would take is one night to kill the only current "good" person around, then one more night when/if the Magistrate reveals themselves. I'd think they'd go for that to keep it so no one could trust absolutely anyone.


Time:2007-07-25 19:41:02 GMT
Author:[info]devil_engine
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 #4
Ugh...this is so random it's not even funny....


Time:2007-07-25 19:41:13 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
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#5
I'll vote [info]flipperchaz, for now at least, because his silence is too suspicious. Open to any other accusations.


Time:2007-07-25 19:41:58 GMT
Author:[info]devil_engine
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 #6
well I figured since you outed yourself you'd surely be the next one on thier list.. Apparently not


Time:2007-07-25 19:43:11 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
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Link:150705#2273713

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#7
What I want to have answered is where the hell the magistrate has been.


Time:2007-07-25 19:44:40 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
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Link:150705#2273969

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 #8
I'm going to wait a bit longer and see what else comes up. Daedalus offered some ok reasoning behind his voting logic but I need to think on this.


Time:2007-07-25 19:46:39 GMT
Author:[info]lorriet
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 #9
I'm guessing that they are trying to find the lovers, get a 2fer1 special, which is why H&H is still alive.

Not that that helps us at all.

I still think that daedalus is suspicious, but want to hear other thoughts before weighing in with a vote.


Time:2007-07-25 19:47:48 GMT
Author:[info]lorriet
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#10
Who would you sequester, and to what end, if you were the magistrate?


Time:2007-07-25 19:56:14 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
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#11
agreed. I don't see the benefit, but then, i never saw the benefit of the Magistrate at all.


Time:2007-07-25 20:03:49 GMT
Author:[info]daedalus4096
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#12
I concur for now, as his silence is more conspicuous than [info]Darkjuan's.

Vote [info]Flipperchaz

There's still plenty of room for my mind to be changed, though.


Time:2007-07-25 20:06:13 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
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Link:150705#2277553

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#13
First of all, to protect yourself; the magistrate does have the ability to sequester themselves. There's a version of this game called "Are You A Cultist?" where Cultists take the place of this games Werewolves. I was a Guardian in that game and for the first few rounds I protected myself, which actually came pretty handy.

Secondly, provided the Seer was still alive and you were able to keep them alive with the Witch once they out themselves, start sequestering them for a few more nights. Sequestering, as far as I know, doesn't limit the Seer's abilities.


Time:2007-07-25 20:06:32 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
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 #14
See my answer below.


Time:2007-07-25 20:06:45 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
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Link:150705#2278065

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 #15
see my answer above.


Time:2007-07-25 20:11:25 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
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#16
The sequestered will be released at night fall, so suffers all the actions of night and is not protected from wolf attacks, etc. Additionally although the sequestered is immune to lynchings, he can still die from LOVER suicide or HUNTER bullet while in jail.

Won't protect you from the wolves, or I'd ask for it myself.


Time:2007-07-25 20:12:04 GMT
Author:[info]gorillashaman
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#17
ugh! wtf? Why didn't [info]hungryandhollow get eaten? If [info]hungryandhollow is lying and there's a cupid laying low, he should step up NOW.

I'm really suspicious of the low posters like [info]flipperchaz and [info]devil_engine, but if yesterday's defense of [info]makellan by [info]daedalus4096 wasn't wolflike, I don't know what is.

vote [info]daedalus4096



Here's the current list

Livin':

[info]cambler
[info]cuddlycthulhu
[info]daedalus4096
[info]darkjuan
[info]devil_engine
[info]flipperchaz
[info]gorillashaman
[info]hungryandhollow
[info]lorriet
[info]ragnarok_now

DEAD:
[info]chessiekitty the VILLAGER
[info]evilben the VILLAGER
[info]giantlaser the VILLAGER
[info]gnatdbug the VILLAGER
[info]maniakes the WITCH
[info]myshanter the SERIAL KILLER
[info]rustymaggot the VILLAGER
[info]slojae the VILLAGER
[info]sonicbunny the VILLAGER
[info]amphitrite27 the HUNTER
[info]baronlaw the WEREWOLF
[info]blackbeardin the SEER
[info]dragonattack the WEREWOLF
[info]stride the VILLAGER
[info]makellan the WEREWOLF

Left:
2 wolves
1 Sorcerer
1 Magistrate
1 Cupid
1 [info]Nader


Time:2007-07-25 20:17:47 GMT
Author:[info]devil_engine
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Link:150705#2279089

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 #18
I'm completely new to this...so forgive my silence..I'm still trying to understand what's going on here


Time:2007-07-25 20:25:15 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
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#19
If we don't get a wolf in two days, we'll be down to 6 people - 2 wolves, a sorcerer, and 3 villagers. At that point, we lose. It's getting close enough now that I think we should consider a Sheriff - not today, probably, but if we don't get a wolf tonight we'll probably want one tomorrow. Might not do any good, but it might save our ass.


Time:2007-07-25 20:26:14 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
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 #20
glad to hear you're so enthused about my continued survival :P


Time:2007-07-25 20:40:56 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
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 #21
Hmmm, damn.


Time:2007-07-25 20:41:06 GMT
Author:[info]flipperchaz
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 #22
http://[info]millershollow.livejournal.com/147669.html?thread=2245077#t2245077


Time:2007-07-25 20:42:14 GMT
Author:[info]lorriet
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#23
But sequestering was only during the day and only protected the person from lynching, not from being eaten...

Hmmm


Time:2007-07-25 20:51:53 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
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#24
Hell, if they get the lovers then we're screwed unless one of them is a wolf.


Time:2007-07-25 21:02:01 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
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Link:150705#2282417

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 #25
That's true, I just had it pointed out to me. *shakes head*


Time:2007-07-25 21:02:45 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
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#26
If they get lovers tonight, and we lynch a villager, we have 7 people tomorrow - 3 bad and 4 good. Since that's not enough for a bad majority or a tie, the wolves can't reveal themselves, so they have to get the Sorcerer to figure out who they are and sway a villager. Not hard, but not impossible. Once they've got the baddies and the good guys at even numbers, they identify themselves to the sorcerer, force a tie, and win. So losing the lover's isn't the end of the world, but it ain't good.


Time:2007-07-25 21:10:58 GMT
Author:[info]cambler
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#27
Unless we lynch the sorcerer, which would give an extra day. But that seems like it would just be random luck at this point.


Time:2007-07-25 21:14:56 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
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Link:150705#2283441

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 #28
*nod* Well, I think then that maybe we should elect a Sheriff, at least start the first round of voting for it.


Time:2007-07-25 21:45:22 GMT
Author:[info]darkjuan
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 #29
hmmm...

I VOTE [info]devil_engine because we're both new and I don't know what to think anymore...


Time:2007-07-25 22:18:38 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
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#30
[info]flipperchaz has stated reasons for why he's quiet.

Ragnarok, on the other hand, has been practically silent.

Wanted to point that out to since you seem to be going on "silence =s suspicion."


Time:2007-07-25 22:23:08 GMT
Author:[info]daedalus4096
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Link:150705#2286001

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#31
Wait... Rag is still playing?! Damn, that's an effective silent treatment. What do you have to say for yourself, Rag?


Time:2007-07-25 22:24:41 GMT
Author:[info]daedalus4096
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Link:150705#2286257

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 #32
Pardon me, but I explicitly stated that I was not defending [info]Makellan. I simply wanted to see some actual debate. When I realized my error, I said so and retracted my theory. All in all, I'd say I was pretty responsible about the whole thing.


Time:2007-07-25 22:26:26 GMT
Author:[info]daedalus4096
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Link:150705#2286513

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#33
To clarify, barring a good explanation, I'm going to stick with my current "quiet wolf" theory and change my vote to you, [info]Ragnarok_now.


Time:2007-07-25 22:40:36 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
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Link:150705#2287025

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#34
The other site didn't pick up your vote.

You should probably do the unvote vote name thing just to be sure.


Time:2007-07-25 22:42:44 GMT
Author:[info]daedalus4096
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#35
That's because I haven't changed it yet. I'm going to give him a chance to explain himself, as [info]Flipperchaz has already done, before I vote for him. I figure two to three hours or so is a reasonable delay.


Time:2007-07-25 22:51:34 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
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#36
I can get behind that.

I just wish we had more to go on than "You're not talking enough" or "You were a little funny three days ago, must be a wolf."


Time:2007-07-25 22:59:26 GMT
Author:[info]gorillashaman
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#37
Yep. Fate's a bitch.


Time:2007-07-25 23:02:20 GMT
Author:[info]cambler
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#38
She is.

Are you the sorcerer?


Time:2007-07-25 23:05:07 GMT
Author:[info]gorillashaman
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#39
It's true. There is less to go on now.

Still; the thought of "it's common for at least one wolf to lay low" is fairly sound.

Seems like the general concensus is that [info]flipperchaz, [info]devil_engine, and [info]ragnarok_now have been abnormally quiet.

Faced with a "1 in 3" chance (if the "quiet wolf" hypothesis holds) vs a "2 in 10" chance for simply voting randomly, I'll go with the "1 in 3".

unvote [info]daedalus4096
vote [info]flipperchaz

Unless someone can convince me otherwise.


Time:2007-07-25 23:11:38 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
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#40
I'd say vote for the quietest and go for Ragnarok, personally. [info]Flipperchaz, at least, has stated an excuse.

I'm waiting to see what Ragnarok's excuse, if any, is before I make my vote.


Time:2007-07-25 23:12:29 GMT
Author:[info]millershollow
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Link:150705#2289329

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#41
[info]ragnarok_now left for comicon at noon today . . .


Time:2007-07-25 23:15:06 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
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Link:150705#2289585

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 #42
Thank you for letting us know.


Time:2007-07-25 23:16:14 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
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#43
[info]Ragnarok_now didn't post in the comicon thread. Did they say when they might be back online?


Time:2007-07-25 23:20:24 GMT
Author:[info]millershollow
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#44
sporadically . . . today will stop at 11am tomorrow . . . tomorrow's day will be a long one that won't end until monday 11am to accomodate the comicon people . . .


Time:2007-07-25 23:22:54 GMT
Author:[info]gorillashaman
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#45
What sort of answer do you expect to a question like that? Sort of like me asking you... "Are you a wolf?"

For the record, I am not the sorceror.


Time:2007-07-25 23:24:14 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
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 #46
Cool. You are truly a just and giving god. 8p


Time:2007-07-25 23:26:51 GMT
Author:[info]cambler
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#47
I was hoping for more of an analysis, as only you can do, on voting patterns. Anyone regularly voted for those who were later shown to be obvious villagers?


Time:2007-07-26 00:18:13 GMT
Author:[info]flipperchaz
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Link:150705#2291377

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 #48
Bastard. :-P


Time:2007-07-26 00:38:05 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
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 #49
i'm game for Ragnarok too. I'm really grasping at straws here.


Time:2007-07-26 05:21:26 GMT
Author:[info]gorillashaman
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Link:150705#2291889

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Siblings:#54
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#50
Seeing as how we have a habit of only lynching villagers unless it's painfully obvious who the wolves are, that's kind of tough.

Also, I don't think you can catch out the sorcerer based on voting patterns; he doesn't know who the wolves are.

But here are some numbers anyway, based on past votes. It's interesting to note the wide variance in % of votes against known WEREWOLF. You seem pretty good at it, [info]cambler. As do ragnorak_now and [info]lorriet. I'm not sure if this is above the noise floor though. Or maybe you three know something we don't, hrm? Conversely, [info]cuddlycthulhu and [info]darkjuan are bad at it. Perhaps they're working with their furry brethren?

:)

(see, at this point I've implicated half the crowd, which really just means these numbers are pretty useless)

(did ragnorak_now really miss two votes? Or did I screw up my source data somehow?)

[info]devil_engine ===
against SERIAL KILLER : (0%)
against WEREWOLF : 3 (37%)
against VILLAGER : 2 (25%)
against unknown : 1 (12%)
against HUNTER : 2 (25%)
against SEER : (0%)
[info]ragnarok_now ===
against SERIAL KILLER : (0%)
against WEREWOLF : 3 (50%)
against VILLAGER : (0%)
against unknown : 1 (16%)
against HUNTER : 2 (33%)
against SEER : (0%)
[info]lorriet ===
against SERIAL KILLER : 2 (25%)
against WEREWOLF : 4 (50%)
against VILLAGER : 1 (12%)
against unknown : 1 (12%)
against HUNTER : (0%)
against SEER : (0%)
[info]cuddlycthulhu ===
against SERIAL KILLER : 2 (25%)
against WEREWOLF : 2 (25%)
against VILLAGER : 2 (25%)
against unknown : 2 (25%)
against HUNTER : (0%)
against SEER : (0%)
[info]daedalus4096 ===
against SERIAL KILLER : 2 (25%)
against WEREWOLF : 3 (37%)
against VILLAGER : 2 (25%)
against unknown : 1 (12%)
against HUNTER : (0%)
against SEER : (0%)
[info]darkjuan ===
against SERIAL KILLER : 1 (12%)
against WEREWOLF : 2 (25%)
against VILLAGER : 2 (25%)
against unknown : 3 (37%)
against HUNTER : (0%)
against SEER : (0%)
[info]flipperchaz ===
against SERIAL KILLER : 1 (14%)
against WEREWOLF : 3 (42%)
against VILLAGER : (0%)
against unknown : 3 (42%)
against HUNTER : (0%)
against SEER : (0%)
[info]cambler ===
against SERIAL KILLER : 1 (12%)
against WEREWOLF : 5 (62%)
against VILLAGER : 2 (25%)
against unknown : (0%)
against HUNTER : (0%)
against SEER : (0%)
[info]gorillashaman ===
against SERIAL KILLER : (0%)
against WEREWOLF : 3 (37%)
against VILLAGER : 3 (37%)
against unknown : (0%)
against HUNTER : 2 (25%)
against SEER : (0%)
[info]hungryandhollow ===
against SERIAL KILLER : 1 (12%)
against WEREWOLF : 3 (37%)
against VILLAGER : 3 (37%)
against unknown : (0%)
against HUNTER : 1 (12%)
against SEER : (0%)


Time:2007-07-26 05:35:04 GMT
Author:[info]darkjuan
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Link:150705#2292145

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 #51
damn!! those are some serious stats... 8o


Time:2007-07-26 05:50:29 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
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#52
Problem is those are out of context - which is not to say you did a bad job, but we have to consider some things. For example, when does a vote for [info]Makellan count? If you're the 10th person to vote for him, there's no point in voting otherwise. But if you're the third, then you're probably not a wolf. So... if you're the fifth, or sixth, does that count? And so forth.


Time:2007-07-26 13:39:26 GMT
Author:[info]gorillashaman
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 #53
Yeah, he was trouble. I counted him as a werewolf regardless of when you voted for him.

I also counted "day 2" and "day 2 evening" as separate days, even if you voted the same for both, or different for both.

Like I said, not too meaningful.


Time:2007-07-26 14:07:29 GMT
Author:[info]gorillashaman
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Link:150705#2292913

Parent:#47
Siblings:#50
Children:#58 #59
#54
I had a giggle of an idea this morning in the shower though.

If two players have a real life common experience that they do not share with any of the other players, they could refer to details about it and details about the current game in an XOR fashion.

As an example, if you and I attended a really great party in the last few years, I could say something like

(at the party we did FOO) XOR (i am a BAR) == FALSE

(substitue FOO with something like "took pictures" or "your mom" and BAR with something like "villager" or "sorcerer")

If a third party saw that, all they would know was that I was trying to send some kind of message about whether or not I was a BAR. Only you would know whether it was true, because only you would know whether or not we did FOO.

Of course, any such communication could be looked upon suspiciously, both by the crowd in general, and the intended recipient. Plus, there are probably only a limited set of circumstances where you might want to say something in that manner.


Time:2007-07-26 14:23:26 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
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Link:150705#2293169

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 #55
Alright, well, I'll stick with [info]Flipperchaz for lack of any better-looking targets.


Time:2007-07-26 14:34:06 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
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Link:150705#2293681

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#56
Those are very curious stats you have there because, if I'm reading them correctly, it appears that I've voted eight times.

I haven't.

I [info]abstained two days in a row yet those numbers appear to be somehow included in your stats as me voting for another category.

Also, how did you reach the number eight? If you're going by final vote, then the final vote should count should be seven since we had a tie and that pushed it to a second "final vote" for the day. If you are going off of votes cast, then your numbers are wrong because some of the people here have voted, unvoted, and voted again.


Time:2007-07-26 14:43:52 GMT
Author:[info]gorillashaman
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Link:150705#2293937

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 #57
I think you're two "[info]abstain" votes are shown as unknown. While I generally write good code, I'm never perfect. I'll fix that and repost below.

As I said previously, I didn't know what to do with "day 2" and "day 2 evening", so I counted them as two separate and disjoint days. That's why we've got 8 and not 7.

And like I said, don't take much stock in them. They're more curiosities than anything else.


[info]devil_engine ===
against SERIAL KILLER : (0%)
against WEREWOLF : 3 (37%)
against VILLAGER : 2 (25%)
against unknown : (0%)
against HUNTER : 2 (25%)
against SEER : (0%)
against [info]abstain : 1 (12%)
[info]ragnarok_now ===
against SERIAL KILLER : (0%)
against WEREWOLF : 3 (50%)
against VILLAGER : (0%)
against unknown : 1 (16%)
against HUNTER : 2 (33%)
against SEER : (0%)
against [info]abstain : (0%)
[info]lorriet ===
against SERIAL KILLER : 2 (25%)
against WEREWOLF : 4 (50%)
against VILLAGER : 1 (12%)
against unknown : 1 (12%)
against HUNTER : (0%)
against SEER : (0%)
against [info]abstain : (0%)
[info]cuddlycthulhu ===
against SERIAL KILLER : 2 (25%)
against WEREWOLF : 2 (25%)
against VILLAGER : 2 (25%)
against unknown : (0%)
against HUNTER : (0%)
against SEER : (0%)
against [info]abstain : 2 (25%)
[info]daedalus4096 ===
against SERIAL KILLER : 2 (25%)
against WEREWOLF : 3 (37%)
against VILLAGER : 2 (25%)
against unknown : 1 (12%)
against HUNTER : (0%)
against SEER : (0%)
against [info]abstain : (0%)
[info]darkjuan ===
against SERIAL KILLER : 1 (12%)
against WEREWOLF : 2 (25%)
against VILLAGER : 2 (25%)
against unknown : 3 (37%)
against HUNTER : (0%)
against SEER : (0%)
against [info]abstain : (0%)
[info]flipperchaz ===
against SERIAL KILLER : 1 (14%)
against WEREWOLF : 3 (42%)
against VILLAGER : (0%)
against unknown : 2 (28%)
against HUNTER : (0%)
against SEER : (0%)
against [info]abstain : 1 (14%)
[info]cambler ===
against SERIAL KILLER : 1 (12%)
against WEREWOLF : 5 (62%)
against VILLAGER : 2 (25%)
against unknown : (0%)
against HUNTER : (0%)
against SEER : (0%)
against [info]abstain : (0%)
[info]gorillashaman ===
against SERIAL KILLER : (0%)
against WEREWOLF : 3 (37%)
against VILLAGER : 3 (37%)
against unknown : (0%)
against HUNTER : 2 (25%)
against SEER : (0%)
against [info]abstain : (0%)
[info]hungryandhollow ===
against SERIAL KILLER : 1 (12%)
against WEREWOLF : 3 (37%)
against VILLAGER : 3 (37%)
against unknown : (0%)
against HUNTER : 1 (12%)
against SEER : (0%)
against [info]abstain : (0%)


Time:2007-07-26 14:49:14 GMT
Author:[info]cambler
Subject:(none)
Link:150705#2294193

Parent:#54
Siblings:#59
Children:(none)
 #58
I also wonder if that violates the spirit of the "no private communication" rule.


Time:2007-07-26 15:14:20 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
Subject:(none)
Link:150705#2294449

Parent:#54
Siblings:#58
Children:(none)
 #59
Yea, as [info]cambler said, it might violate the spirit of the rule. Plus at this point, I don't think there's a use for it... the Sorcerer has no point in revealing himself except not getting eaten, and there's not really any other specials left where it would benefit them to have 1 or 2 people know what they are.


Time:2007-07-26 15:20:28 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
Subject:(none)
Link:150705#2294705

Parent:(none)
Siblings:#1 #4 #5 #9 #17 #19 #29 #55 #61 #62 #70 #71 #73
Children:(none)
 #60
I was going to go on this who spiel about how if we're going to say we're voting for someone that we should vote for them for that stated reason, which in this case is that they are too quiet.

Looking back at the posts, [info]Ragnarok_now actually has been posting more than [info]flipperchaz in total and often more on the same day.

Sorry, flip. *shakes head*

vote [info]flipperchaz


Time:2007-07-26 15:23:53 GMT
Author:[info]lorriet
Subject:(none)
Link:150705#2294961

Parent:(none)
Siblings:#1 #4 #5 #9 #17 #19 #29 #55 #60 #62 #70 #71 #73
Children:#63
#61
Shoot. I was hoping that reading the comments would give me some clues, but alas, I remain clueless.

I don't think "he's quiet" is enough cause for me to lynch [info]flipperchaz. I've never played with him before and don't know if this is an unusual playstyle.

Vote [info]abstain, since the outcome seems a forgone conclusion, and I don't have an alternate theory to proffer.


Time:2007-07-26 15:31:06 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
Subject:In case the werewolves take a hankering to calamari...
Link:150705#2295217

Parent:(none)
Siblings:#1 #4 #5 #9 #17 #19 #29 #55 #60 #61 #70 #71 #73
Children:#64
#62
Here are some things to keep in mind:

- [info]Cambler was a suspect early on but it was dropped because the serial killer and then the two wolves were exposed. Perhaps that should be revisited.

- [info]Lorriet has not been a suspect at all. Of course, gorrillashaman's jokes aside, neither have I, but I've at least been more vocal.

- [info]Gorillashaman does post a lot of information that is not necessarily important. Statistics are often little more than paper houses, even if they do look pretty.

- Daedalus has also been suspected in the past but always as a second choice.

- [info]Darkjuan and [info]devil_engine have also, at least in my memory (which is more like a sieve than anything else), been pretty quiet.

- [info]Ragnarok_now's posts have slowly trickled down to nothing. True, they did leave for ComicCon, but if our only criteria at this point is either "being new" or "lack of posting" then it should be considered.

I'm not pointing the finger at any of them necessarily, right now I feel like wagging my head back and going "Abbity abbity abbity abbity..." because of the lack of any concrete info, but I felt that some of my thoughts should get put down.


Time:2007-07-26 15:32:24 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
Subject:(none)
Link:150705#2295473

Parent:#61
Siblings:(none)
Children:(none)
 #63
Actually, I agree with you. It won't change the outcome, but if he isn't a wolf then at least it won't be because of me.

unvote [info]flipperchaz
vote [info]abstain


Time:2007-07-26 15:43:21 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
Subject:Re: In case the werewolves take a hankering to calamari...
Link:150705#2295729

Parent:#62
Siblings:(none)
Children:#65
#64
- [info]Gorillashaman does post a lot of information that is not necessarily important. Statistics are often little more than paper houses, even if they do look pretty.

Welcome to playing with [info]Gorillashaman :P He's crazy about his stats. You should have seen the hullabaloo over his Claim Game...

Anyway, yea, things are pretty bleak right now. At this point I think it's mostly luck.


Time:2007-07-26 15:55:28 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
Subject:Re: In case the werewolves take a hankering to calamari...
Link:150705#2295985

Parent:#64
Siblings:(none)
Children:#66
#65
Well, it ain't me. I tried going back yesterday to see if I could figure out who the Lovers are based off of past voting practices but when I mapped it out there were huge gaps that couldn't even begin to give me any good guesses.

If I am eaten, my shuggoth minions will come through space and time and do bad things to the wolves. Very icky things. Involving slime.


Time:2007-07-26 16:58:48 GMT
Author:[info]cambler
Subject:Re: In case the werewolves take a hankering to calamari...
Link:150705#2297009

Parent:#65
Siblings:(none)
Children:#67 #74
#66
I'd like to see that.

vote [info]cuddlycthulhu


Time:2007-07-26 17:06:20 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
Subject:Re: In case the werewolves take a hankering to calamari...
Link:150705#2297265

Parent:#66
Siblings:#74
Children:#68
#67
Interesting. Can I ask what your thought behind it is?


Time:2007-07-26 17:08:29 GMT
Author:[info]cambler
Subject:Re: In case the werewolves take a hankering to calamari...
Link:150705#2297521

Parent:#67
Siblings:(none)
Children:#69
#68
Absolutely none, as at this late hour, it neither tips the balance or makes a difference. We're all in the f'ing dark right now.

If someone comes up with a compelling strategy, I'll listen.


Time:2007-07-26 17:23:36 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
Subject:Re: In case the werewolves take a hankering to calamari...
Link:150705#2298033

Parent:#68
Siblings:(none)
Children:(none)
 #69
*nod* Ok, I can get behind that.

*shakes head* They've done a pretty good job of causing complete chaos. This "get the most suspicious person" strategy they seem to be going for seems pretty damn good. The only real slip up they've made was eating [info]Makellan but they pretty much had to because until he turned he was still a normal villager.


Time:2007-07-26 17:33:17 GMT
Author:[info]flipperchaz
Subject:(none)
Link:150705#2298545

Parent:(none)
Siblings:#1 #4 #5 #9 #17 #19 #29 #55 #60 #61 #62 #71 #73
Children:(none)
 #70
Looks like I won't survive, but here's hoping... vote [info]devil_engine.


Time:2007-07-26 17:41:04 GMT
Author:[info]devil_engine
Subject:(none)
Link:150705#2298801

Parent:(none)
Siblings:#1 #4 #5 #9 #17 #19 #29 #55 #60 #61 #62 #70 #73
Children:#72
#71
Hmmm...I'm gonna go with majority rules at this point and vote [info]flipperchaz


Time:2007-07-26 17:42:29 GMT
Author:[info]flipperchaz
Subject:(none)
Link:150705#2299057

Parent:#71
Siblings:(none)
Children:(none)
 #72
Nothing personal, just trying to save my ass. :-)


Time:2007-07-26 17:52:41 GMT
Author:[info]flipperchaz
Subject:(none)
Link:150705#2299313

Parent:(none)
Siblings:#1 #4 #5 #9 #17 #19 #29 #55 #60 #61 #62 #70 #71
Children:(none)
 #73
"Come, sirs, convey me to the block of shame;
Wrong hath but wrong, and blame the due of blame."

- Richard III


Time:2007-07-26 17:54:12 GMT
Author:[info]cuddlycthulhu
Subject:Re: In case the werewolves take a hankering to calamari...
Link:150705#2299569

Parent:#66
Siblings:#67
Children:(none)
 #74
Oh, BTW, I said "eaten". I think if I get hung nothing really happens. *pouts*


Vote History
[info]hungryandhollowvote[info]flipperchaz2007-07-25 19:41:13 GMT#5
[info]daedalus4096vote[info]flipperchaz2007-07-25 20:03:49 GMT#12
[info]gorillashamanvote[info]daedalus40962007-07-25 20:12:04 GMT#17
[info]darkjuanvote[info]devil_engine2007-07-25 21:45:22 GMT#29
[info]gorillashamanunvote[info]daedalus40962007-07-25 23:05:07 GMT#39
[info]gorillashamanvote[info]flipperchaz2007-07-25 23:05:07 GMT#39
[info]cuddlycthulhuvote[info]abstain2007-07-26 14:34:06 GMT#56
[info]cuddlycthulhuvote[info]flipperchaz2007-07-26 15:20:28 GMT#60
[info]lorrietvote[info]abstain2007-07-26 15:23:53 GMT#61
[info]cuddlycthulhuunvote[info]flipperchaz2007-07-26 15:32:24 GMT#63
[info]cuddlycthulhuvote[info]abstain2007-07-26 15:32:24 GMT#63
[info]camblervote[info]cuddlycthulhu2007-07-26 16:58:48 GMT#66
[info]flipperchazvote[info]devil_engine2007-07-26 17:33:17 GMT#70
[info]devil_enginevote[info]flipperchaz2007-07-26 17:41:04 GMT#71
Vote Summary
4 against[info]flipperchaz:[info]devil_engine [info]daedalus4096 [info]gorillashaman [info]hungryandhollow
2 against[info]devil_engine:[info]darkjuan [info]flipperchaz
2 against[info]abstain:[info]lorriet [info]cuddlycthulhu
1 against[info]cuddlycthulhu:[info]cambler
Posted but no vote:[info]millershollow
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posts by[info]hungryandhollow:(13)#1 #3 #5 #11 #16 #19 #20 #26 #49 #52 #55 #59 #64
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