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millershollow - Day 5 |
| Link:145746 Sat Jan 23 00:17:48 2010 |
evilben's cottage they found it surrounded by over a dozen evilben clones all sobbing and crying. A suck walked jubilently through the throng of clones. The bird pulled out a napkin and tucked it under his chin as he pulled out a fork and knife, licking his bill hungrily. He quacked to the clones, who still upset and crying grabbed the mauled form of evilben and began dragging him off to the Evil Ben Snack Factory.dragonattack, manacled him and led him away to jail. evilben the VILLAGER is DEAD!dragonattack is SEQUESTERED!| Time:2007-07-20 18:32:14 GMT Author: chirpy_cricketSubject:(none) Link:145746#2180434 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:(none) |
#1 | |
| *chirp* *chirp* *chirp* | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 18:38:45 GMT Author: strideSubject:(none) Link:145746#2180690 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:#3 #25 |
#2 | |
| Daaaaaaaaang. Vote ![[info]](../images/makellan.gif){kind=small} makellan | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 18:45:38 GMT Author: camblerSubject:(none) Link:145746#2180946 | Parent:#2 Siblings:#25 Children:#10 |
#3 | |
| Why? | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 18:50:05 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2181714 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:(none) |
#4 | |
| This is just getting ridiculous. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 18:51:15 GMT Author: baronlawSubject:(none) Link:145746#2181970 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:#6 #9 #13 |
#5 | |
| Damyum, I can't figure out why they'd eat him? Who was he aiming at last? | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 18:55:42 GMT Author: camblerSubject:(none) Link:145746#2182994 | Parent:#5 Siblings:#9 #13 Children:#26 |
#6 | |
| So help me, I'm guessing that the wolves aren't newbies and are playing this randomly on purpose. We might as well roll dice to see who we kill. This is VERY frustrating. Without protection for a seer, we're firing blind. Lunchtime... I'm going to give this more thought. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 18:56:02 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2183250 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:#11 #14 #24 #27 |
#7 | |
Evilben accused these three people yesterday:Chessiekitty![[info]](../images/gorillashaman.gif){kind=small} GorillashamanCamblerAnd believed it would get him eaten. He did, in fact, get eaten. But I have trouble believing Gorillashaman in particular would be so ham-handed - I know it's the Wine In Front Of Me thing, but at the same time, it seems too blunt. But at the same time, I don't have anyone else, except Makellan, who seems vaguely suspicious to me. Unfortunately, with him getting married, he won't have much chance to defend himself.So... another Day 1 all over again? | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 18:56:58 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2183506 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:(none) |
#8 | |
| Also, as today is SEVERUS SNAPE FRIEND OR FOE MOTHERFUCKER Day, once I get off work I'll probably be pretty quiet. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 18:57:36 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2183762 | Parent:#5 Siblings:#6 #13 Children:(none) |
#9 | |
| He pointed to Chessiekitty, Gorillashaman, and Cambler. See my post below for more. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 18:58:42 GMT Author: strideSubject:(none) Link:145746#2184018 | Parent:#3 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#10 | |
| I've been voting for him for awhile now. It's just a feeling, but that's all I got at this point. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 19:00:20 GMT Author: strideSubject:(none) Link:145746#2184274 | Parent:#7 Siblings:#14 #24 #27 Children:#12 |
#11 | |
| The question is...how do we get away from the Day 1 syndrome? Do we put everyone on the stand and question them so we at least have a starting foundation for the next day? | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 19:01:17 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2184530 | Parent:#11 Siblings:(none) Children:#15 |
#12 | |
| I have no idea. I'm currently trying to decide whether Evilben's death makes you a wolf or a villager. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 19:01:34 GMT Author: strideSubject:(none) Link:145746#2184786 | Parent:#5 Siblings:#6 #9 Children:#18 |
#13 | |
| They are eating those we discuss as suspects, adding to the chaos, and allowing them to make new suggestions for the following day. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 19:02:14 GMT Author: camblerSubject:(none) Link:145746#2185042 | Parent:#7 Siblings:#11 #24 #27 Children:#16 |
#14 | |
| I'll have to go back and read, but did he give any reasons for accusing the three of us? | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 19:03:28 GMT Author: strideSubject:(none) Link:145746#2185298 | Parent:#12 Siblings:(none) Children:#17 |
#15 | |
| I am a villager - not a wolf. My evidence is the same as everyone elses, though I would like to point out that I asked the seer to read me on Day 1. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 19:33:21 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2186066 | Parent:#14 Siblings:(none) Children:#21 |
#16 | |
| yea, the speed in which you and gorillashaman dogpiled baronlaw. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 19:34:07 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2186322 | Parent:#15 Siblings:(none) Children:#20 |
#17 | |
| I'll admit I may be overly suspicious of you because you've tricked me so many times. But even so... I wonder. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 19:35:05 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2186578 | Parent:#13 Siblings:(none) Children:#19 |
#18 | |
| Then why haven't they eaten me? I've been a suspect on multiple days now. Am I so horrible they decided I do the village more harm alive then dead? :P | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 19:42:30 GMT Author: strideSubject:(none) Link:145746#2186834 | Parent:#18 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#19 | |
| Because either you're a wolf, or they're using you as a conversational smokescreen. I'm leaning towards the latter. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 19:44:14 GMT Author: strideSubject:(none) Link:145746#2187090 | Parent:#17 Siblings:(none) Children:#30 |
#20 | |
| Same thing can be said about you, too. :) | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 19:55:45 GMT Author: camblerSubject:(none) Link:145746#2187602 | Parent:#16 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#21 | |
| I already discussed my reasoning for quick-me-too-ing. I feel it's the ONLY way to push the seer to help, and if I'm consistent and do it with the first vote, I remove suspicion. That said, I've stopped. At this point, forcing the seer to help would be statistically bad now that we've lost 2 more villagers. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 21:06:30 GMT Author: daedalus4096Subject:(none) Link:145746#2187858 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:(none) |
#22 | |
| Work and personal stuff are keeping me very busy today, so I won't be posting much. In addition, I'm also going to be out of town most of the weekend with no internet access. As such, I'm simply going to carry over my vote from yesterday. Vote GorillashamanDon't expect any further posts from me until late Sunday night. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 21:17:43 GMT Author: gorillashamanSubject:(none) Link:145746#2188114 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:(none) |
#23 | |
baronlawblackbeardincamblercuddlycthulhudaedalus4096darkjuandevil_enginedragonattack - Locked up![[info]](../images/flipperchaz.gif){kind=small} flipperchazgorillashamanhungryandhollowlorrietmakellanragnarok_nowstrideDEAD amphitrite27 the HUNTERchessiekitty the VILLAGERevilben the VILLAGERgiantlaser the VILLAGERgnatdbug the VILLAGERmaniakes the WITCHmyshanter the SERIAL KILLERrustymaggot the VILLAGERslojae the VILLAGERsonicbunny the VILLAGER | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 21:25:30 GMT Author: gorillashamanSubject:(none) Link:145746#2188370 | Parent:#7 Siblings:#11 #14 #27 Children:(none) |
#24 | |
| If I was a wolf and wanted to be ham handed, I could come up with better targets. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 21:39:45 GMT Author: baronlawSubject:(none) Link:145746#2188626 | Parent:#2 Siblings:#3 Children:(none) |
#25 | |
| You know he was on my hit list the other day and got sequestered... vote makellan | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 21:40:32 GMT Author: baronlawSubject:(none) Link:145746#2188882 | Parent:#6 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#26 | |
| I'll be off the net most of the weekend, but will attempt to do due dilligence come Monday morning. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 21:51:46 GMT Author: gorillashamanSubject:(none) Link:145746#2189394 | Parent:#7 Siblings:#11 #14 #24 Children:#31 #41 #43 |
#27 | |
| No, in fact I'm sure I've got it now. Check this out: http:// ![[info]](../images/millershollow.millershollow.gif){kind=small} millershollow.livejournal.com/145746.html?thread=2181970It's baronlaw trying to frame me up for voting to lynch him yesterday.baronlaw and evilben have a long history here, I can see why baronlaw would want him out of the way. And if he can frame me up in the process and snicker about it with such a blatant comment, all the better.vote baronlaw | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 21:53:11 GMT Author: lorrietSubject:(none) Link:145746#2189650 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:(none) |
#28 | |
| All of my hunches have been wrong, excepting myshanter. Maybe it's time to do the opposite. vote baronlaw | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 21:53:13 GMT Author: gorillashamanSubject:(none) Link:145746#2189906 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:(none) |
#29 | |
| btw, I'll be ren-fairing it and hanging out with my daughter this weekend, so expect my posting to be sporadic until Sunday night. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 22:03:56 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2190418 | Parent:#20 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#30 | |
| When have I ever tricked you? I am the consummate gentleman :P | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 22:20:16 GMT Author: camblerSubject:(none) Link:145746#2190674 | Parent:#27 Siblings:#41 #43 Children:(none) |
#31 | |
| Persuasive. vote baronlaw until convinced otherwise. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 22:20:17 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2190930 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:#34 #36 #39 |
#32 | |
| It came to me while I was driving - it's an amazing strategy. If the wolves aren't doing this on purpose, I'm gonna kick my own ass for giving it away and not saving it for when I'm a wolf. The wolves aren't just eating the suspects to cause chaos - they're neutralizing the seer. Every night, who is the seer most likely to spy on? The most suspected person who isn't lynched. So every night the wolves eat that person. If you had a 50% guess rate as to who the seer was going to spy on, you'd cut the effectiveness of the seer in half. If you got lucky you could cut it by 75% easily. This also means that discussion is cut way down, because everyone who spoke a lot (suspects tending to speak more to defend themselves) is dead. Now normally, being quiet is just as dangerous as being loud. But no one can blame anyone for being quiet, because half of us are barely posting, and the other half are mostly posting about how they have no suspects. So now quiet wolves don't stand out. The first kill is Gnatbug, the runner-up in votes. The second is Amphitrite, also the runner-up. The third is Giantlaser - that one I can't figure out. The fourth is Evilben, whom we requested that the Seer spy on. Anyway, like I said, I'm not 100% sure that's what they're doing, but the pattern is definitely there. So Seer, please scan people who aren't close to being lynched, so when you come out you'll have as much info for us as possible, and not just info on dead people. I'm still a little suspicious of Gorillashaman, but I agree that Baronlaw seems to be trying to get other people to start a Gorillashaman/Cambler bandwagon. I'm also still suspicious of Stride. So I'll vote Stride, subject to change, naturally.P.S. I'm claiming this kill-the-seer's-targets thing as the Hungryandhollow Strategy, whether or not I'm right about the wolves using it :P | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 22:53:41 GMT Author: darkjuanSubject:(none) Link:145746#2191186 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:(none) |
#33 | |
| I'm going to hold my vote until at least sunday. I'll need to reread some of the previous posts before I can even try to figure out what the hell is going on. My mind is pretty frazzled right now. Also I'm still remodeling my bathroom, so I probably not be on too much this weekend. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 22:56:00 GMT Author: ragnarok_nowSubject:I wouldn't say amazing. Link:145746#2191442 | Parent:#32 Siblings:#36 #39 Children:(none) |
#34 | |
| Following your line of reasoning on the third day the wolves didn't eat the runner-up. The most likely senario is that said runner-up was a wolf. The two other candidates at that time were makellan and yourself.Again, assuming you are correct, bringing it up makes it seem unlikely that you are a wolf. vote makellanOn the other hand, you could be trying to mislead the seer. And it is quite likely that there are other reasons for their picks. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 23:16:59 GMT Author: baronlawSubject:(none) Link:145746#2191698 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:#37 #38 |
#35 | |
| I see so the two people Evilben (THE VILLAGER) was aimed at, are voting against me? Color me surprised. I hope you two wolves are happy when the the rest of the villagers get around to noticing this frame up! | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 23:21:29 GMT Author: baronlawSubject:(none) Link:145746#2191954 | Parent:#32 Siblings:#34 #39 Children:#42 |
#36 | |
| I call it self defense, you call it what you will. But since I have yet to vote for either Cambler or Gorillashaman I am not sure how you are claiming I am starting a bandwagon against them. You on the other hand have been a consistent target of mine and yet somehow you keep escaping justice. By the way, if the wolves started this strategy how come you're claiming credit for it? Unless of course you are a wolf and are staking your claim ahead of your three pack mates. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 23:30:56 GMT Author: camblerSubject:(none) Link:145746#2192210 | Parent:#35 Siblings:#38 Children:(none) |
#37 | |
| Evilben, not being a seer, would have no way of knowing if I were a wolf, therefore your theory fails. There's no framing going on. Someone voted for you, and so I'm following on the off chance that he's the seer, as he couldn't come out and say so even if he was. I can be convinced to do otherwise. It's really that simple. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 23:33:08 GMT Author: lorrietSubject:(none) Link:145746#2192466 | Parent:#35 Siblings:#37 Children:#40 |
#38 | |
| See, they were high on my list, too, but I've had to rethink and revisit since recent developments. I'm still not sure about H&H...but yeah...definitely an interesting strategy the wolves are using. Now, you and ragnarok_now are two of my favored suspects. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 23:41:31 GMT Author: daedalus4096Subject:(none) Link:145746#2192722 | Parent:#32 Siblings:#34 #36 Children:(none) |
#39 | |
| A brief reprieve from work... Your theory actually makes an alarming amount of sense. I also have to agree with Rag's assessment of why the pattern deviated on day three. Unvote GorillashamanVote Makellan | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 23:46:52 GMT Author: ragnarok_nowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2192978 | Parent:#38 Siblings:(none) Children:#45 |
#40 | |
| Just to be clear: we are suspects because 'we' have discovered the wolf strategy? You know what this make you look like. | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 23:52:24 GMT Author: devil_engineSubject:(none) Link:145746#2193234 | Parent:#27 Siblings:#31 #43 Children:(none) |
#41 | |
| very persuasive indeed vote baronlaw | |||
| Time:2007-07-20 23:53:08 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2193490 | Parent:#36 Siblings:(none) Children:#44 #46 |
#42 | |
| By the way, if the wolves started this strategy how come you're claiming credit for it? Unless of course you are a wolf and are staking your claim ahead of your three pack mates. Hmmm... sounds like you're really stretching it on that one. The little :P at the end was meant to indicate that I was being silly, and I'm claiming credit for it a) to antagonize the wolves and b) because no one can claim credit for it without admitting they're a wolf. Now what I find suspicious about you is this: just the other day, you accused me of bandwagoning, with the logic that wolves try to get someone else to start the bandwagon and then jump on it. Today, instead of checking yesterday's posts and saying "Hey, he pointed to Cambler and Gorillashaman, I vote for one of them," you asked who he pointed to - setting up someone else to start the bandwagon on them. Also, since I know I'm not a wolf, your constant accusation of me has me thinking you might be a wolf yourself.However, it looks like right now the consensus is Makellan, both because he was suspicious before and because it fits into my theory. Now, I don't even know if the theory is right, and even if it is Daedalus and Ragnarok could just be wolves manipulating it to their own ends, but what the hell, I'll vote Makellan. | |||
| Time:2007-07-21 00:00:56 GMT Author: daedalus4096Subject:(none) Link:145746#2193746 | Parent:#27 Siblings:#31 #41 Children:(none) |
#43 | |
| Perhaps I'm missing something, but I don't see why this comment is so incriminating. Could you please elaborate? | |||
| Time:2007-07-21 00:06:38 GMT Author: ragnarok_nowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2194002 | Parent:#42 Siblings:#46 Children:(none) |
#44 | |
| Actually I think I was the one who pointed towards wolves using the dogpile method. In this case stride was the first to vote for makellan, then baronlaw, then myself. So, according to my logic baronlaw and myself could be wolves. However I think you'll see that I can upon this conclusion independantly, since I see some potential in your theory. I am willing to take the risk and make myself look wolfy because I feel this has merit. We shall see if I am vindicated if we manage to catch this wolf. | |||
| Time:2007-07-21 01:01:51 GMT Author: lorrietSubject:(none) Link:145746#2194258 | Parent:#40 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#45 | |
| No, I haven't discovered the "strategy". But you have to admit that the chaos and consistent "day 1" mentality is pretty good, no? Whatever strategy it is, it has even experienced players (not me) scratching their heads. I had some theories the last few days...like x voted for y because z! Then, z would turn out to be absolutely wrong. I think it makes me look like a villager talking out my hind end. We have to start somewhere, though. | |||
| Time:2007-07-21 02:50:57 GMT Author: baronlawSubject:(none) Link:145746#2194514 | Parent:#42 Siblings:#44 Children:#47 |
#46 | |
| To be honest I was too lazy to wade through all the entries from yesterday to remember who he aimed at. *shrug* I too am voting Makellan. But I find your Daedalus and Ranarok theory interesting. | |||
| Time:2007-07-21 04:17:25 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2194770 | Parent:#46 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#47 | |
| I wouldn't go so far as to call it a theory, or even a suspicion - just something to keep in mind. | |||
| Time:2007-07-21 04:42:46 GMT Author: makellanSubject:(none) Link:145746#2195026 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:#49 #51 |
#48 | |
| Ahh, I see the evil-wolf-plan. Stride votes me out when she knows darn well that I have wedding rehearsal today and a wedding tomorrow. She thinks I won't be able to check in until Monday morning when it's far too late to save myself. vote StrideYou all know she's dangerous. Her trying to lynch another villager (Me) simply proves it. | |||
| Time:2007-07-21 04:43:36 GMT Author: makellanSubject:(none) Link:145746#2195282 | Parent:#48 Siblings:#51 Children:#50 |
#49 | |
| oh, and that actually is likely to be it from me until Monday morning. If I ever have to do anything this complicated again, I'm hiring help. | |||
| Time:2007-07-21 13:27:45 GMT Author: darkjuanSubject:(none) Link:145746#2195794 | Parent:#49 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#50 | |
| btw... congratz man, and good luck! ;) | |||
| Time:2007-07-21 14:13:25 GMT Author: strideSubject:(none) Link:145746#2196050 | Parent:#48 Siblings:#49 Children:(none) |
#51 | |
| 1) I'm a villager 2) I was at the rehersal and will be at the wedding, too. :P | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 03:49:31 GMT Author: blackbeardinSubject:(none) Link:145746#2196562 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:#53 #54 #55 #57 |
#52 | |
| Okay, time to weigh in. I'm the SEER, makellan is NOT a wolf. The hunter already burned me on my first look (maniakes) and my second has gone back to the snack factory(evilben) so I'll be damned if I'm going to wait till Monday morning for my third to talk himself out of a lynch, especially since I have TWO positive results.baronlaw, and hungryandhollow are both lying WEREWOLVES. vote hungryandhollow | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 04:52:02 GMT Author: darkjuanSubject:(none) Link:145746#2196818 | Parent:#52 Siblings:#54 #55 #57 Children:(none) |
#53 | |
| whoa... VOTE hungryandhollow | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 05:03:30 GMT Author: gorillashamanSubject:(none) Link:145746#2197074 | Parent:#52 Siblings:#53 #55 #57 Children:(none) |
#54 | |
| alrighty then. unvote baronlawvote hungryandhollow(although I have no clue why the SEER wouldn't jump on the baronlaw bandwagon if he thought baronlaw was a wolf) | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 06:16:23 GMT Author: daedalus4096Subject:(none) Link:145746#2197330 | Parent:#52 Siblings:#53 #54 #57 Children:(none) |
#55 | |
| That's good enough for me. Of course, if you're lying, tomorrow will be very boring. Then again, I guess if you're telling the truth, tomorrow will also be kinda boring. :) Unvote MakellanVote Hungryandhollow | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 07:51:28 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2197586 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:#58 |
#56 | |
lolololol nice try but.... i'm the Cupid. And I'm pretty sure you can't be the cupid and a ralph ![[info]](../images/nader.gif){kind=small} nader, so unless someone corrects me on that, you're a liar. vote blackbeardinIf you don't believe I'm the Cupid, well, I can always out the lovers, but that probably does more harm than good. I don't know why a wolf not under threat of lynching would claim to be the Seer, but since I'm Cupid I don't know why the supposed Seer would say I was a wolf. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 07:52:04 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2197842 | Parent:#52 Siblings:#53 #54 #55 Children:(none) |
#57 | |
| As I mentioned below, you're lying, because I'm Cupid. Read one post down for more details. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 09:29:22 GMT Author: blackbeardinSubject:Well, you're sort of right... Link:145746#2198098 | Parent:#56 Siblings:(none) Children:#59 #60 #62 |
#58 | |
| Damn. This was my worst case scenario. You're right, I'm a lying seer. I thought you were a wolf from a lot of your interactions with baronlaw and I thought I could blow some smoke and get you lynched without having to seer you, and maybe even get the fourth wolf to out himself. Unfortunately that wasn't the case.However, my worst case scenario isn't all that bad(I don't think). dragonattack is the other wolf I picked up. I don't think he's nader because he started the dogpile on chessiekitty on day four when the votes had started to rack up on baronlaw(you also swung your vote over to her after that). Then today when the votes started to pile up against baronlaw you pulled your vote from stride and swung over to makellan, who I knew to be a non-wolf. I figured at that point, I could risk charging you. The odds of you being a special weren't all that high. :P unvote hungryandhollow | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 13:54:59 GMT Author: gorillashamanSubject:Re: Well, you're sort of right... Link:145746#2198354 | Parent:#58 Siblings:#60 #62 Children:#61 #66 |
#59 | |
| Please give us the straight dope at this point. What I read so far is that you say you're the seer. you say you've scanned dragonattack, baronlaw, and makellen. you say dragonattack and baronlaw are wolves and makellan is a villager. Then you posted a total fabrication involving hungryandhollow. wtf? Why?If you really are the seer, you KNOW the wolves are going to eat you tonight. Would you have died not telling us you thought dragonattack was a wolf? WTF?Am I the only one finding this hard to believe? unvote hungryandhollowNow the tough part. Do I switch back to baronlaw, or do I switch to you? If you're not a wolf, you're sure to get eaten tonight. If you're still alive tomorrow, you're certain to get lynched. Either way, you're already dead, and I'm free today to put my vote back where it was.vote baronlaw | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 14:08:05 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:Re: Well, you're sort of right... Link:145746#2198610 | Parent:#58 Siblings:#59 #62 Children:(none) |
#60 | |
| um.... what?? i guess, unless the real Seer comes out, that I'll believe you, but that's the strangest damn thing I've ever heard. Also, it effectively killed me, since I had to out myself as a special and am now on the wolves' death list. So... thanks? | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 14:09:12 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:Re: Well, you're sort of right... Link:145746#2198866 | Parent:#59 Siblings:#66 Children:#63 |
#61 | |
| yea i'm pretty damn tempted to lynch blackbeardin tonight myself. i don't think I'm changing my vote yet. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 14:14:59 GMT Author: gorillashamanSubject:Re: Well, you're sort of right... Link:145746#2199122 | Parent:#58 Siblings:#59 #60 Children:#64 |
#62 | |
| The more I think about this the less I believe it. If we're to believe you, your "best case scenario" was that you guessed right. How about the "most likely scenario"? Say hungryandhollow had been a plain ordinary villager. He'd have assumed either (a) you're lying or (b) he was ralph nader. Let's further assume we believed your tale, and actually lynched him. Claiming to be ralph nader at this point of the game would be an interesting defense, whether he was wolfie or not. We'd probably have lynched him anyway, just to be sure. When we discover we've lynched a poor innocent villager because of you, who do you think we'll be voting to lynch next?I'm so not buying it. If you are the SEER, you didn't think this through very well. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 14:21:48 GMT Author: gorillashamanSubject:Re: Well, you're sort of right... Link:145746#2199378 | Parent:#61 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#63 | |
| naw, if baronlaw's not a wolf, we'll know blackbeardin is lying. Also, if blackbeardin is alive tomorrow, we'll know he's lying. If he's NOT lying, he gets a chance to spy tonight. On the off chance the wolves decide NOT to eat him (just to fuck with us) he can tell us who he spied on. We'll likely not believe and lynch him anyway, just for being alive, but before he goes he'll have the chance to tell us who he spied on, and we'll know after we lynch him that he wasn't lying. (odds of the wolves letting him live out more than one night are pretty small, in my opinion). In any event, I wouldn't lynch him today. Tomorrow for sure if he's still alive, but not today. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 14:28:18 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:Re: Well, you're sort of right... Link:145746#2199634 | Parent:#62 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#64 | |
| yea, my "best case scenario" is that this is the worst seer-strategy ever :P | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 15:10:03 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2199890 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:#68 #70 |
#65 | |
| If there's a real Seer out there, it's probably best for them to come out now before we wind up even more confused. In the meantime, I guess I'll go along with Gorillashaman and unvote blackbeardin, and vote baronlaw | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 15:22:55 GMT Author: blackbeardinSubject:Re: Well, you're sort of right... Link:145746#2200146 | Parent:#59 Siblings:#61 Children:(none) |
#66 | |
| I was planning on outing myself on the eleventh hour today anyway. I'm very much aware the wolves are planning to eat me. With no witch or bodyguard, there's no way a seer could survive to the end. I would have mentioned dragonattack near the end of the day. I wanted to see what hungryandhollow would do to defend himself and, with dragonattack locked up, if another wolf would come to his defense(for obvious reasons baronlaw would have to disavow him).Straight dope: Makellan is NOT a Wolfbaronlaw IS a Wolfdragonattack IS a WolfEveryone else is dead. vote baronlaw | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 15:23:59 GMT Author: baronlawSubject:(none) Link:145746#2200402 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:#69 |
#67 | |
| Well I see the tide has turned against me and my one hope lies in shifting votes to my original target: unvote makellanvote hungryandhollowFor those of you voting marginal targets, might I prevail upon you in shifting your votes towards Hungryandhollow. Makellan I'm looking at you specifically and any of you who are currently voting for me. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 15:27:41 GMT Author: blackbeardinSubject:(none) Link:145746#2200658 | Parent:#65 Siblings:#70 Children:#71 |
#68 | |
| No, the real seer should stay hidden, unless they themselves have either three positive wolves or two positive wolves and one or more living non-wolf. If I'm a fake, we don't want to out the real seer unless they've got really good info. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 15:35:39 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2200914 | Parent:#67 Siblings:(none) Children:#73 |
#69 | |
| ... are you claiming to not be a wolf? Because if so, voting for a villager and encouraging others to do the same is not a smart idea. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 15:35:53 GMT Author: gorillashamanSubject:(none) Link:145746#2201170 | Parent:#65 Siblings:#68 Children:(none) |
#70 | |
| I strongly disagree. If blackbeardin is lying about being the SEER, there's no indication that anyone has any clue who the real seer is. The real SEER should stay hidden. Having him come out does no good; it gets him eaten sooner. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 15:36:38 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2201426 | Parent:#68 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#71 | |
| ... If you're not the Seer, then you're a wolf, and we need to know that you're lying about your wold-claims. So please, if someone else is the Seer, come out before Blackbeardin's false claims confuse us all. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 16:16:15 GMT Author: makellanSubject:(none) Link:145746#2201682 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:#75 #76 |
#72 | |
| Ok, wow. I thought I was Nader there for a while with everyone ganging up on me. I figured the Seer was hiding among my attackers.Since I'm not a wolf, I'm going to believe blackbeardin and vote baronlawI actually really liked hungryandhollow's theory on wolf kills. I think it makes a lot of sense and is likely to become a wolf strategy in future games.Oh, and hungryandhollow, why would you be a wolf target? Why would they care to kill the cupid when he's already shot his arrows? You're now just a tasty villager for a later snack who might out the lovers for them if pressed hard enough. You're more useful to them than most. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 16:20:18 GMT Author: baronlawSubject:(none) Link:145746#2201938 | Parent:#69 Siblings:(none) Children:#74 |
#73 | |
| The so-called seer has finally outed himself, we all know how this works. You all vote for me, the wolves laugh themselves sick as another villager bites the dust, they eat a random person and the crowd lynches blackbeardin. I see no way I won't get lynched this turn unless I can shift the voting to the second most popular target. Shrug. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 16:21:28 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2202194 | Parent:#73 Siblings:(none) Children:#79 |
#74 | |
| This is the weirdest game I've ever played. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 16:32:08 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2202450 | Parent:#72 Siblings:#76 Children:#77 #78 |
#75 | |
| because right now, I'm the only confirmed villager there is. Blackbeardin's claims of being the Seer are still pretty sketchy, which makes his claim that you're a villager pretty sketchy. That leaves me as the only special who is alive and out of the closet, so to speak. Wolves tend to target known villagers because they aren't going to be lynched - although granted, the wolf strategy in this game is so unusual I don't know what's going to happen. But historically, being a confirmed villager is like painting a target on your back. And I don't think I'm likely to out the lovers, since I really can't imagine it doing the villagers more good than the wolves. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 16:32:35 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2202706 | Parent:#72 Siblings:#75 Children:(none) |
#76 | |
| p.s. gratz on marriage | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 16:42:38 GMT Author: blackbeardinSubject:(none) Link:145746#2202962 | Parent:#75 Siblings:#78 Children:(none) |
#77 | |
| No, if you're actually cupid, Makellan's a better target because he's got a chance of being the afflicted. They'll have to eat me first anyway. If you think I'm a wolf, then I've exposed myself and another wolf in exchange for cupid. Considering how things have been going for the wolves so far, that's not a good trade off, especially since you'd never out the lovers just to prove yourself. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 16:44:26 GMT Author: gorillashamanSubject:(none) Link:145746#2203218 | Parent:#75 Siblings:#77 Children:#80 |
#78 | |
| You are by no means a "confirmed villager". As horrible as blackbeardin's story is, it is still possible that you're a lying wolf, and that the real cupid has not posted (or even read!) since you "outed" yourself. And frankly, your insistence that the "real SEER" come out now makes you look a little sketchy. You become a "confirmed villager" when either (a) you're dead or (b) a confirmed SEER says you're a villager. Neither of these have happened yet. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 16:47:13 GMT Author: baronlawSubject:(none) Link:145746#2203474 | Parent:#74 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#79 | |
| Well at least it's interesting. So assuming blackbeardin is a false seer, which will be proved after my lynching, the question is why?If he is a villager is he just trying to steer the mob? Is he one of the other specials, say the sorcerer who also wins when the wolves win? Let's say I am a wolf and he outed me and potentially one other wolf dragon_attack, how does this help him? In two rounds he will get two wolves and the wolves will get him and at least one more villager. Then you are back at turn 1 again. But if he is the sorcerer he kills another villager for the wolves (me!) and the wolves eat another villager say hungryandhollow. He is left alive for the villagers vengence but he pleads an honest mistake he is just a villager please don't kill him in retaliation.I can't make sense of the strategy here, either way he dies in one turn or two. Is there any position in the game where deflecting blame away from himself and at me would help? Unless he is the wolf!!! unvote hungryandhollowvote blackbeardin !!! | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 16:54:43 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2203730 | Parent:#78 Siblings:(none) Children:#82 #86 |
#80 | |
| No no, I didn't mean to imply that I'm invincible. But by tomorrow, when no one challenges my claim of being Cupid, it'll be pretty clear that I'm telling the truth. I'm not saying that I'm dead tonight, but in the past, when specials out themselves they haven't live long. My insistence that the real Seer come out is because we, as villagers, are already so turned around and mixed up that I think it would do far more harm to have us following a fake Seer for a few days then it would to lose the Seer. I mean, let's say Blackbeardin is lying, and the real Seer stays in hiding. Well, we lynch Baronlaw, who turns out to be a villager. Blackbeardin claims that Baronlaw must have been the Ralph Nader. We spend the day arguing over whether or not we should take the chance and lynch Blackbeardin or not. Whatever we decide, we've wasted a day, and we're even more mixed up than before. If the Seer doesn't want to come out, he doesn't have to - when I was Seer I stayed hidden like, three days after people were urging me to come out - but I'm just voicing my opinion. Besides, it would make no sense for the real Cupid to stay hidden if I was lying about my claim, would it? Even if he got eaten for exposing me, a villager's life is easily worth lynching a wolf at this point. And by your logic, no one can ever be a confirmed villager until the Seer is dead, because the Seer can only be confirmed by dying and we can only be confirmed after the confirmed Seer says we're villagers. If someone outs themselves as a special, and no one challenges them in a full 24 hours, I usually feel pretty good about trusting them - unless the circumstances are as suspicious as Blackbeardin's. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 16:55:08 GMT Author: baronlawSubject:False Seer! Link:145746#2203986 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:(none) |
#81 | |
| So assuming blackbeardin is a false seer, which will be proved after my lynching, the question is why? If he is a villager is he just trying to steer the mob? Is he one of the other specials, say the sorcerer who also wins when the wolves win? Let's say I am a wolf and he outed me and potentially one other wolf dragon_attack, how does this help him? In two rounds he will get two wolves and the wolves will get him and at least one more villager. Then you are back at turn 1 again. But if he is the sorcerer he kills another villager for the wolves (me!) and the wolves eat another villager say hungryandhollow. He is left alive for the villagers vengence but he pleads an honest mistake he is just a villager please don't kill him in retaliation.I can't make sense of the strategy here, either way he dies in one turn or two. Is there any position in the game where deflecting blame away from himself and at me would help? Unless he is the wolf!!! unvote hungryandhollowvote blackbeardin !!! | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 16:59:06 GMT Author: blackbeardinSubject:(none) Link:145746#2204242 | Parent:#80 Siblings:#86 Children:#83 |
#82 | |
| In Millers Hollow Ralph Nader is revealed at death so tomorrow would be the end of the road for me one way or another. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 17:07:45 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2204498 | Parent:#82 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#83 | |
| Ah, that makes the situation much better, then. Sorry for the misunderstanding. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 17:12:04 GMT Author: cuddlycthulhuSubject:*emerges from the forest with straw stuck in his tentacles* Link:145746#2204754 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:#87 |
#84 | |
| Hi, guys, I'm back what did I...oh sweet jesus. *reads, reads reads* We're so screwed. Well, I think I'll have to vote ![[info]](../images/abstain.gif){kind=small} abstain, the reason behind which is that baronlaw's screwed either way and if he's not a wolf then you better believe I'll be eating blackbeardin's sanity tomorrow. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 17:14:39 GMT Author: flipperchazSubject:(none) Link:145746#2205010 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:(none) |
#85 | |
| Vote baronlaw. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 17:16:03 GMT Author: gorillashamanSubject:(none) Link:145746#2205266 | Parent:#80 Siblings:#82 Children:#88 |
#86 | |
| Much of that argument is predicated on the assumption that the wolves will let blackbeardin live out the night. I find this highly improbable. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 17:17:53 GMT Author: gorillashamanSubject:Re: *emerges from the forest with straw stuck in his tentacles* Link:145746#2205522 | Parent:#84 Siblings:(none) Children:#89 |
#87 | |
| eating, huh? Sounds a little wolfie to me. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 17:21:11 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2205778 | Parent:#86 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#88 | |
| I normally would agree, but they've been so unorthodox this game that it wouldn't entirely surprise me. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 17:24:33 GMT Author: cuddlycthulhuSubject:Re: *emerges from the forest with straw stuck in his tentacles* Link:145746#2206034 | Parent:#87 Siblings:(none) Children:#91 |
#89 | |
| First of all, villager. Well, part villager, part squamous horror from beyond, but 100% villager in my heart. Secondly, I have had valid points for all of my voting in the past, including my abstentions. Thirdly, if blackbeardin gets another one of us lynched for nothing with his claims of beeing a Seer, wouldn't you want to see something horrible happen to him? | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 17:27:55 GMT Author: blackbeardinSubject:(none) Link:145746#2206290 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #93 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:#92 |
#90 | |
| One thing I want to mention and it's not really lynch related, but I think it's time for the magistrate to stop sequestering people everyday. It's going to either take away villager votes or protect wolves(I suppose if the SORCERER were sequestered that would be okay, but I don't think he's going to let himself be known). | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 17:30:26 GMT Author: gorillashamanSubject:Re: *emerges from the forest with straw stuck in his tentacles* Link:145746#2206546 | Parent:#89 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#91 | |
| Should have added the smiley there. Yes. If baronlaw is not a wolf, or if blackbeardin is alive tomorrow, we're certain to lynch blackbeardin tomorrow.Unless maybe the magistrate decides to lock him up, which would be all manner of stupid. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 17:31:02 GMT Author: camblerSubject:(none) Link:145746#2206802 | Parent:#90 Siblings:(none) Children:#94 #100 |
#92 | |
| This being my first game playing with a sorcerer, I'm still a bit unclear on the role. If s/he were sequestered, how would that help us? They still get to spy, they'll never reveal themself, and they'll still try to lobby for votes for villagers. Actually, that does suggest something - who's been lobbying the hardest for lynching votes for villagers? | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 17:33:58 GMT Author: strideSubject:(none) Link:145746#2207058 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #98 #101 #108 #112 Children:(none) |
#93 | |
| I do believe this is the weirdest game I've seen online. I will also not change my vote as it will not affect baronlaw's survival rate. I'm a little hesitant to join the lynching wagon just yet with a SEER who is and isn't and is (maybekindasorta) again. I'd rather wait and see how this round plays out. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 17:38:02 GMT Author: blackbeardinSubject:(none) Link:145746#2207314 | Parent:#92 Siblings:#100 Children:#95 #96 |
#94 | |
| The sorcerer could make a lot of noise by claiming to be one of the other specials or dogpiling with the wolves. Also, the wolves can count on him as an extra vote if it gets close to endgame(say for example there's two wolves, a sorcerer and three villagers left. The wolves could out themselves and with the sorcerer's vote force a tie for a werewolf victory. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 17:40:59 GMT Author: camblerSubject:(none) Link:145746#2207570 | Parent:#94 Siblings:#96 Children:#99 |
#95 | |
| The last part, I can see. The first part? Not so much. I'm a plain vanilla villager, but I could claim to be a special just like anyone else. The sorcerer has no advantage in that respect. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 17:41:38 GMT Author: daedalus4096Subject:(none) Link:145746#2207826 | Parent:#94 Siblings:#95 Children:#97 |
#96 | |
| Except that the wolves and the sorcerer don't know who each other are. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 17:46:07 GMT Author: blackbeardinSubject:(none) Link:145746#2208082 | Parent:#96 Siblings:(none) Children:#110 |
#97 | |
| I'm saying the wolves could out themselves to the sorcerer during the lynching discussion. They'd know if he was still alive; they'd just have to say who they are and then he vote with them(though it would be kind of risky if the sorcerer decided not to play by the rules. Although...some of the villagers might claim to be wolves then to confuse him, which, however unlikely, would be immensely entertaining. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 17:48:30 GMT Author: daedalus4096Subject:(none) Link:145746#2208338 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #101 #108 #112 Children:#102 #104 |
#98 | |
| Son of a... Things seemed so much simpler last night. So, if I understand all this correctly, Blackbeardin is claiming that he's the seer, but has deliberately lied about Hungryandhollow. He does, however, still claim that Baronlaw and Dragonattack are wolves. Meanwhile, Hungryandhollow has claimed to be cupid as his defense. At this point, I find it very unlikely that Blackbeardin is the seer. Voting for him, however, would be a waste today. If he's telling the truth this time, he'll get eaten tonight. If he's not, then he gets lynched tomorrow. While I'm tempted to join the bandwagon on Baronlaw, that would require that I believe one word out of our "seer's" mouth, which I don't. So, I'm going to go back to my previous guess...Unvote HungryandhollowVote MakellanThis shouldn't have any significant effect on the outcome of the vote, except for making me feel better that I'm not going along with the wolf's plan. If Baronlaw does turn out to be a wolf, then I'm willing to give Blackbeardin the benefit of the doubt and vote for Dragonattack tomorrow. Otherwise, he's walkin' the plank. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 17:49:20 GMT Author: blackbeardinSubject:(none) Link:145746#2208594 | Parent:#95 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#99 | |
| He could do it to flush out the special he's claiming to be in order to either lynch the special or(if the villagers don't believe him) allow the wolves to target the special at night. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 17:52:33 GMT Author: gorillashamanSubject:(none) Link:145746#2208850 | Parent:#92 Siblings:#94 Children:(none) |
#100 | |
| Seems to me the optimum SORCERER strategy would just to sit around quietly scanning people nightly. Don't try to influence votes or anything. Then, once the SEER is found, stand up boldly, out both yourselves and the SEER. The wolves would surely eat the SEER. Whether or not the villagers lynch the SORCERER is inconsequential. They could just leave him hanging around (he is a villager, after all) and ignore anything he says. Although I suspect they'd want to lynch him early in a close game; Don't want him causing unnecessary ties. In either case, his "win" is pretty dependant on the wolves at that point. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 17:52:56 GMT Author: lorrietSubject:(none) Link:145746#2209106 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #108 #112 Children:(none) |
#101 | |
| ohmygoodness! None of this changes my vote, but wow! My stupid internet has been down intermittently since Thursday, so I'm not able to respond (or even read, drives me crazy!) regularly. This should be an interesting lynching/night! | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 18:07:43 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2209362 | Parent:#98 Siblings:#104 Children:#103 #109 |
#102 | |
| Your summary of the morning's events isn't bad, but you forgot the ragnarok_now has amnesia, cambler has been kidnapped and is currently being impersonated by his own evil twin, and stride just discovered she's pregnant with evilben's baby. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 18:09:22 GMT Author: daedalus4096Subject:(none) Link:145746#2209618 | Parent:#102 Siblings:#109 Children:(none) |
#103 | |
| Shocking! | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 18:10:30 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2209874 | Parent:#98 Siblings:#102 Children:#105 |
#104 | |
| srsly tho, we were leaning pretty heavily towards lynching Baronlaw anyway, so I feel like if this was a wolf plan they would have pegged someone who hasn't come under the gun, like you. Why the hell he lied about me being a wolf I still don't really understand, but both Baronlaw and I had pretty good chances of being lynched without any elaborate wolf plots behind it. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 18:13:01 GMT Author: daedalus4096Subject:(none) Link:145746#2210130 | Parent:#104 Siblings:(none) Children:#106 |
#105 | |
| Actually, from what I recall, the bandwagon was rolling Makellan's way when all this tomfoolery started. I haven't ruled out the possibility that this is an effort to divert suspicion away from him. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 18:16:21 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2210386 | Parent:#105 Siblings:(none) Children:#107 |
#106 | |
| but if that's the case, when we realize that blackbeardin isn't the Seer, we're sure to lynch Mallekan anyway. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 18:17:53 GMT Author: daedalus4096Subject:(none) Link:145746#2210642 | Parent:#106 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#107 | |
| Unless we're so distracted by all these antics that we forget. I don't want us to forget, hence my vote. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 18:24:18 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2210898 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #112 Children:(none) |
#108 | |
| It's considerably past 11, so I'm going to assume out wonderful Mod is unavoidably detained, but please note that by now this post is almost certainly closed. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 18:26:58 GMT Author: camblerSubject:(none) Link:145746#2211154 | Parent:#102 Siblings:#103 Children:#111 |
#109 | |
| Screw that noise. I'm the good twin. You're used to dealing with the evil one, bitch. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 18:29:00 GMT Author: camblerSubject:(none) Link:145746#2211410 | Parent:#97 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#110 | |
| At this point, I think I know who the sorcerer is. But I can't see knowing making a whit of good. I suspect I'll either see my theory killed or confirmed after today's eating. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 18:33:52 GMT Author: hungryandhollowSubject:(none) Link:145746#2211666 | Parent:#109 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#111 | |
| i lol'd | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 18:38:26 GMT Author: cuddlycthulhuSubject:(none) Link:145746#2212178 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #7 #8 #22 #23 #28 #29 #32 #33 #35 #48 #52 #56 #65 #67 #72 #81 #84 #85 #90 #93 #98 #101 #108 Children:#113 |
#112 | |
| Goodbye, baronlaw. If you're a villager then I hope your spirit will be put to rest by the fact that the pirate will either be eaten or lynched. And if you're not, then I think you'll make a pretty good rug. | |||
| Time:2007-07-23 18:42:32 GMT Author: baronlawSubject:(none) Link:145746#2212690 | Parent:#112 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#113 | |
| Maybe I'll come back as a zombie villager. ;) | |||
| stride | vote | makellan | 2007-07-20 18:38:45 GMT | #2 | |
| daedalus4096 | vote | gorillashaman | 2007-07-20 21:06:30 GMT | #22 | |
| baronlaw | vote | makellan | 2007-07-20 21:39:45 GMT | #25 | |
| gorillashaman | vote | baronlaw | 2007-07-20 21:51:46 GMT | #27 | |
| lorriet | vote | baronlaw | 2007-07-20 21:53:11 GMT | #28 | |
| cambler | vote | baronlaw | 2007-07-20 22:20:16 GMT | #31 | |
| hungryandhollow | vote | stride | 2007-07-20 22:20:17 GMT | #32 | |
| ragnarok_now | vote | makellan | 2007-07-20 22:56:00 GMT | #34 | |
| daedalus4096 | unvote | gorillashaman | 2007-07-20 23:41:31 GMT | #39 | |
| daedalus4096 | vote | makellan | 2007-07-20 23:41:31 GMT | #39 | |
| devil_engine | vote | baronlaw | 2007-07-20 23:52:24 GMT | #41 | |
| hungryandhollow | vote | makellan | 2007-07-20 23:53:08 GMT | #42 | |
| makellan | vote | stride | 2007-07-21 04:42:46 GMT | #48 | |
| blackbeardin | vote | hungryandhollow | 2007-07-23 03:49:31 GMT | #52 | |
| darkjuan | vote | hungryandhollow | 2007-07-23 04:52:02 GMT | #53 | |
| gorillashaman | unvote | baronlaw | 2007-07-23 05:03:30 GMT | #54 | |
| gorillashaman | vote | hungryandhollow | 2007-07-23 05:03:30 GMT | #54 | |
| daedalus4096 | unvote | makellan | 2007-07-23 06:16:23 GMT | #55 | |
| daedalus4096 | vote | hungryandhollow | 2007-07-23 06:16:23 GMT | #55 | |
| hungryandhollow | vote | blackbeardin | 2007-07-23 07:51:28 GMT | #56 | |
| blackbeardin | unvote | hungryandhollow | 2007-07-23 09:29:22 GMT | #58 | |
| gorillashaman | unvote | hungryandhollow | 2007-07-23 13:54:59 GMT | #59 | |
| gorillashaman | vote | baronlaw | 2007-07-23 13:54:59 GMT | #59 | |
| hungryandhollow | unvote | blackbeardin | 2007-07-23 15:10:03 GMT | #65 | |
| hungryandhollow | vote | baronlaw | 2007-07-23 15:10:03 GMT | #65 | |
| blackbeardin | vote | baronlaw | 2007-07-23 15:22:55 GMT | #66 | |
| baronlaw | unvote | makellan | 2007-07-23 15:23:59 GMT | #67 | |
| baronlaw | vote | hungryandhollow | 2007-07-23 15:23:59 GMT | #67 | |
| makellan | vote | baronlaw | 2007-07-23 16:16:15 GMT | #72 | |
| baronlaw | unvote | hungryandhollow | 2007-07-23 16:47:13 GMT | #79 | |
| baronlaw | vote | blackbeardin | 2007-07-23 16:47:13 GMT | #79 | |
| baronlaw | unvote | hungryandhollow | 2007-07-23 16:55:08 GMT | #81 | |
| baronlaw | vote | blackbeardin | 2007-07-23 16:55:08 GMT | #81 | |
| cuddlycthulhu | vote | abstain | 2007-07-23 17:12:04 GMT | #84 | |
| flipperchaz | vote | baronlaw | 2007-07-23 17:14:39 GMT | #85 | |
| daedalus4096 | unvote | hungryandhollow | 2007-07-23 17:48:30 GMT | #98 | |
| daedalus4096 | vote | makellan | 2007-07-23 17:48:30 GMT | #98 |
| 8 against | baronlaw | : | devil_engine lorriet flipperchaz cambler gorillashaman blackbeardin makellan hungryandhollow |
| 3 against | makellan | : | ragnarok_now stride daedalus4096 |
| 1 against | blackbeardin | : | baronlaw |
| 1 against | abstain | : | cuddlycthulhu |
| 1 against | hungryandhollow | : | darkjuan |
| Posted but no vote | : | chirpy_cricket | |
| posts by | hungryandhollow | : | (31) | #4 #7 #8 #9 #12 #16 #17 #18 #30 #32 #42 #47 #56 #57 #60 #61 #64 #65 #69 #71 #74 #75 #76 #80 #83 #88 #102 #104 #106 #108 #111 |
| posts by | gorillashaman | : | (14) | #23 #24 #27 #29 #54 #59 #62 #63 #70 #78 #86 #87 #91 #100 |
| posts by | baronlaw | : | (11) | #5 #25 #26 #35 #36 #46 #67 #73 #79 #81 #113 |
| posts by | cambler | : | (10) | #3 #6 #14 #21 #31 #37 #92 #95 #109 #110 |
| posts by | blackbeardin | : | (10) | #52 #58 #66 #68 #77 #82 #90 #94 #97 #99 |
| posts by | stride | : | (9) | #2 #10 #11 #13 #15 #19 #20 #51 #93 |
| posts by | daedalus4096 | : | (9) | #22 #39 #43 #55 #96 #98 #103 #105 #107 |
| posts by | lorriet | : | (4) | #28 #38 #45 #101 |
| posts by | ragnarok_now | : | (3) | #34 #40 #44 |
| posts by | cuddlycthulhu | : | (3) | #84 #89 #112 |
| posts by | darkjuan | : | (3) | #33 #50 #53 |
| posts by | makellan | : | (3) | #48 #49 #72 |
| posts by | devil_engine | : | (1) | #41 |
| posts by | chirpy_cricket | : | (1) | #1 |
| posts by | flipperchaz | : | (1) | #85 |
chirpy_cricket stride hungryandhollow baronlaw hungryandhollow hungryandhollow daedalus4096 gorillashaman lorriet gorillashaman hungryandhollow darkjuan baronlaw makellan blackbeardin hungryandhollow hungryandhollow baronlaw makellan baronlaw False Seer!cuddlycthulhu *emerges from the forest with straw stuck in his tentacles*flipperchaz blackbeardin stride daedalus4096 lorriet hungryandhollow cuddlycthulhu